BBC cheek by jowl with ISIS: email to Emily Thornberry MP

From: Robert Stuart
Sent: Sun 17/12/2017 14:10
Subject: BBC cheek by jowl with ISIS

Dear Emily

I was disappointed by your response to my concerns about BBC reporter Ian Pannell and cameraman Darren Conway’s having apparently entered into a business relationship with al-Qaeda and ISIS linked jihadi group Ahrar al-Sham during the production of the 2013 Panorama special Saving Syria’s Children.

I felt that Jeremy Hayes’ reply to you evaded this matter by diverting into separate concerns I have previously raised with the BBC over this programme.

In the absence of your support, I have reported Pannell and Conway to the National Counter Terrorism Security Office.

I now wish to make you aware of evidence that Pannell and Conway were working in close proximity to members of ISIS during the filming of Saving Syria’s Children.

As detailed here, an ambulance plainly displaying the ISIS flag was among vehicles which transported the alleged victims of an alleged incendiary attack to Atareb Hospital, Aleppo on 26 August 2013. The ambulance and two militarily attired and armed occupants were filmed at close quarters by Conway.

The ambulance was carrying a female alleged victim of the alleged incendiary attack. Conway filmed this woman being transported from the rear of the vehicle by five men, including the two men in combat fatigues who had travelled with her.

One of the “stars” of Saving Syria’s Children, Dr Saleyha Ahsan (who has more recently presented the BBC series “Trust Me I’m a Doctor”), has stated on Twitter that she carried the woman through the hospital. If so, this would appear to indicate that Dr Ahsan was in direct contact with the ISIS militants.

There are clearly very many troubling questions surrounding Saving Syria’s Children. How did Pannell and Conway come to be cheek by jowl, not only with al-Qaeda linked jihadis Ahrar al-Sham, but also with ISIS? Were western government agencies involved in the programme’s production and funding? If so, to what end? Were all the scenes transmitted genuine?

Award-winning US online magazine Paste has described Saving Syria’s Children as “a sham”. Tellingly, despite being informed of this the BBC has not, to my knowledge, chosen to pursue legal action against the publication.

A public enquiry into Saving Syria’s Children is now essential.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Stuart

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BBC Panorama: on location with ISIS

The below information was submitted to Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry on 17 December 2017 – see BBC cheek by jowl with ISIS: email to Emily Thornberry MP

Scenes filmed by BBC cameraman Darren Conway for the 2013 Panorama special Saving Syria’s Children purporting to show incendiary bomb victims arriving at an Aleppo hospital feature an ambulance displaying the ISIS flag. [1]

The proximity of Conway and Panorama reporter Ian Pannell to the ISIS marked vehicle and its armed occupants at Atareb Hospital on 26 August 2013 contrasts markedly with an ostensibly tense scene shot earlier the same day in which the two-man BBC team passes through an ISIS checkpoint in apparent fear for their lives.

The ambulance was transporting a female alleged victim of an alleged napalm or thermite attack on the town of Urm al-Kubra, Aleppo. As discussed here, while the woman walked into the ambulance with composure and took an upright seat, following a 13 kilometre journey to Atareb she was filmed by Conway being ostentatiously carried out of the vehicle by five men, apparently screaming in agony.

Ambulance bearing ISIS flag at 13 seconds in You Tube video shot in Urm al-Kubra, Aleppo, dated 26 August 2013

Ambulance sets off for Atareb

Ambulance arrives at Atareb Hospital where it is filmed by BBC Panorama cameraman Darren Conway (36:34 in Saving Syria’s Children Two men in combat fatigues can be seen emerging from the vehicle, at least one of whom is armed (see

Ambulance departs hospital courtyard at 32:42 in Saving Syria’s Children

Pannell and Conway have recently been reported to the UK National Counter Terrorism Security Office over concerns that they entered into a business relationship with salafist jihadi group Ahrar al-Sham during the production of Saving Syria’s Children.

Ahrar al-Sham – described by the BBC as a “hardline Islamist group” [2]worked with ISIS until January 2014. In light of the then partnership between the two groups it would seem reasonable to question whether the safe passage of Pannell and Conway’s Ahrar al-Sham convoy through an ISIS checkpoint (from 10:47 to 11:40 in Saving Syria’s Children) was not, at least to some degree, orchestrated. [3]

Award-winning US online magazine Paste has described Saving Syria’s Children as “a sham”. In October I gave this presentation outlining some of the concerns surrounding the authenticity of the programme:


[1] Credit for this observation to @matija75 :

[2] As discussed here, Ahrar al-Sham was co-founded by “one of Osama bin Laden’s most trusted couriers”. According to Human Rights Watch, just 19 days before filming for Saving Syria’s Children began the group worked alongside ISIS and al-Qaeda affiliate Jabhat al-Nusra as one of “the key fundraisers, organizers, planners, and executors” of attacks in which at least 190 civilians, including women, children and elderly men were killed and over 200 mostly women and children were kidnapped.

[3] Pannell’s words during this sequence are as follows:

Travelling around Syria has never really been more dangerous, both foreign journalists and foreign aid workers have been targeted, some have been killed. We’re just going through a checkpoint now, put the camera down a bit.

[Narration] Rival rebel factions now fight each other as well as the government. Lawlessness prevails and areas that were once safe can become dangerous almost overnight.

This is an ISIS group, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. This is a group that’s affiliated with Al Qaeda. Increasing numbers of jihadis have come into Syria, they’re setting up checkpoints so it means that any foreigners in particular traveling around the country run the gauntlet of these checkpoints every few miles or so. And the worst thing about driving around is that you’re never sure what lies behind the next corner.

Pannell and Conway’s convoy approaches an ISIS checkpoint in Saving Syria’s Children